TempoPeek

Phil Collins · Face Value

Thunder and Lightning

Thunder and Lightning is in B flat major at 85.3 beats per minute.

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Tempo

85 BPM · Andantemedian of 202 analyses · 85.3–85.4 across the middle eight tenths
Key
B♭ major2 flats · the key most of the analyses agreed on
Agreement
97%share of analyses that agreed
Analyses
202people who ran the extractor
One beat
703.4milliseconds, 60,000 ÷ BPM
Tuning
441.3Hz · +5 cents from A 440
Dynamics
6.28dB the level wanders from its average
Loudness
0.802Essentia's 0–1 scale, not dB
Danceability
1.365Essentia's danceability, 0–3

Source: AcousticBrainz, dump of 2022-06-23 (CC0) · MusicBrainz core data, 2026-09-17 (CC0) · how each number is measured. Measured up to 23.06.2022 — AcousticBrainz stopped collecting in 2022, so nothing released after that date is here.

What the numbers say

202 independent analyses of this recording were submitted to AcousticBrainz. All but a handful of them — 97% — put it in B flat major, a key signature of 2 flats. The tempo printed above is the median of the 202 readings; 97% of them land within 2% of it, and they barely differ at all.

At 85.3 BPM one beat lasts 703.4 milliseconds, so a sixteenth note is 175.8 ms and a dotted eighth 527.5 ms — the delay times for this recording. Counted half as fast it is 42.7 BPM, counted twice as fast 170.6. A score would mark that Andante, by the ranges this site uses.

The analyses put the reference pitch of the recording at 441.3 Hz, which is 5 cents above concert A at 440 Hz — the sort of drift a tape machine or a slightly different mastering leaves behind. That is a fact about this transfer of the music, not about how it was played.

The dynamic complexity of the recording measures 6.28 dB: that is how far the level wanders from its own average, so a small number means a loud, flat master and a large one means a recording that still breathes. Its average loudness is 0.802 on Essentia's 0-to-1 scale, which is not decibels and is not comparable to a streaming service's number.

10 other recordings here are in B flat major; the ones listed below are the closest in tempo.

Beats per bar are not in this dataset. AcousticBrainz's analysis reports a tempo, a key and a loudness, and no time signature at all, so this page does not print one — a 4/4 here would be a guess dressed as a measurement.

Keys that fit with B♭ major

Each of these differs from B♭ major by at most one accidental, or shares its tonic. That is the whole of what a mixing wheel encodes; here the relations are named instead of numbered.

Delay times at 85 BPM

Note valueBeatsMillisecondsHertz
Whole note42813.60.36
Half note21406.80.71
Dotted quarter1.51055.10.95
Quarter note (one beat)1703.41.42
Quarter triplet0.667468.92.13
Dotted eighth0.75527.51.9
Eighth note0.5351.72.84
Eighth triplet0.333234.54.26
Dotted sixteenth0.375263.83.79
Sixteenth note0.25175.85.69
Sixteenth triplet0.167117.28.53
Thirty-second note0.12587.911.37

Half time 42.7 BPM · double time 170.6 BPM. Every row is one beat (703.4 ms) times the fraction in the second column.

Closest in key and tempo

  1. ImaginationEarth, Wind & FireB♭ major85BPM
  2. Ring the AlarmBeyoncéB♭ major85BPM
  3. National AnthemLana Del ReyB♭ major85BPM
  4. My Name IsEminemB♭ major86BPM
  5. Clean UpDanny BrownB♭ major85BPM
  6. I Ain’t Mad at Cha2Pac feat. Danny BoyB♭ major85BPM
  7. Love Is All AroundWet Wet WetB♭ major85BPM
  8. D.O.A. (Death of Auto‐Tune)Jay‐ZB♭ major86BPM
  9. Getaway CarTaylor SwiftB♭ major86BPM
  10. Happy Xmas (War Is Over)Céline DionB♭ major86BPM

Recordings in B flat major, ordered by how near their tempo is to 85 BPM. A calculation, not a recommendation.

All songs in B flat majorAll songs at 85 BPMB♭ major at 80–89 BPMPhil Collins

MusicBrainz collapses 2 recording ids into this one. Recording id 94efe5c4-6730-4b61-a073-585be434c6d6.